right there, for the beer. >> gretchen: brian, for all your beer. log on for our after the show show. >> brian: thank you, everybody. bill: good morning. chilling words from an american being held hostage by al qaeda. he says his life is in the bt's hands. martha: this man's whereabouts are unknown. in a soft-spoken voice he's sitting alone in a room beg for his life. as a matter of policy we do not show you videos made by terrorists. but he's in pakistan and he's appealing to the president as a father saying he will live if

the terrorist demand are made. bill: what are those demand, dominic? >> reporter: al qaeda is saying it wants the united states to stop its air attacks in afghanistan, pakistan and yemen immediately, otherwise mr. winestein faces an uncertain fate. he says if you accept the demands, i live. if you don't accept the demands, i die. he said it was important that the president accept the demands quickly and not delay. he says there will be no benefit in delaying. it will just make things more difficult for me. he tried to reach out in personal words saying hopefully

i can enjoy my two daughters like you enjoy your two daughters. this is the second confirmation by al qaeda that he's been held by the group. bill: he was taken in eastern afghanistan. has he been moved to the more volatile area? report report suspicions are he was moved to the west to waziristan where the majority of al qaeda operatives are in safe haven these days. the al qaeda operatives took him in august. it could be a criminal gang. though the police had no real leads. even the u.s. embassy is remaining quiet about it. he appears to be looked after

fairly well. he's 70 years old and has a heart condition. he did say that he was being looked after and getting all his medication. all the same, a man in that condition in the hands of captors is of great concern. bill: di-natale, thank you. martha: a cia drone strike took out al-kuso. he was indicted for his part in a coal bombing that took place 12 years ago. 17 u.s. soldiers were killed in that attack.

some nervous eyes on wall street after france awakes to a new era of socialism. voters in that country ousting a nicolas sarkozy and voting in socialist fran is hollande. where do we begin, stuart? what does it mean for france and our economy. >> reporter: the europeans are saying enough with the cuts. we can't take this austerity. we want to change direction. we want to start taxing the rich some more. we want to spend more government money, when want to borrow more money. there is a parallel between europe's newspaper policy trend and americans. tax the rich and spend more

government money. the problem is debt. both sides of the atlantic are going to run up a will the more debt. this policy in the past has not been successful in europe or america. europe has had big spending, big debt and slow growth for a generation. america has had $5 trillion in debt in the last three years and had slow growth. they may have another debt crisis soon. most markets are lower today. martha: in our own current election conversation that's going on, what do you expect the markets to react like today. >> reporter: this morning we are going to see the stock market fall a little. but remember it was down 160 points friday of last week. so you are looking at a period

of stock market decline at the moment and those european elections probably make that worse. martha: thanks, stuart. bill: sarkozy's loss a growing trend in europe. he's the first incumbent in france. sarkozy is the 9th european leader to be booted out since the debt crisis began in 2008. the new president has pledged to tax the very rich at 75% of their income. how many that going over snow's a winner for now. martha: riots outside the kremlin in russia. this follows much larger putin protests sunday when 25,000 protesters clashed in the streets.

this is putin's third presidential term in office after serving as prime minister under medvedev. bill: the body of a man found in a barn hours after the running of the kentucky derby and only 100 yards from where this year's derby winner was staying. >> reporter: he is a churchill downs worker and authorities are saying it's murder. he worked as a horse groom. his 19-year-old son also works at churchill downs. police say there does not seem to be any connection between his death and the derby. his body was found sunday just

hours after the 108th running of the derby. >> our homocide detectives were able to determine there is foul play involved. but we don't have the exact cause of death. >> reporter: 100 people live in dormitories or small apartments at the track taking care of the horses. >> reporter: injuries indicate he was involved in some type of altercation. they are trying to figure out where perez was and what he was doing after the race. we don't know how long the body was in the barn or if that is exactly where he was killed. >> we are interviewing people who were at the stables and also the barn, and people who worked out here.

bill: eric shawn in our newsroom in new york. a pretty good start of the racing season. and a shocker of a winner saturday night at the derby. martha: we have a lot going on in the mix on this monday morning in america's newsroom. a top democrat with a stark warning on the situation in afghanistan. what she is saying about the taliban that has capitol hill on its toes. bill: they prayed and refused to answer any questions. this as furious family members of 9/11 looked on. martha: president obama kicking off his reelection campaign officially over the weekend. some are asking for photographs taken there. where are the big crowds in the picture that may have the white house concerned.

>> the debt is $5 trillion higher and he's devisive. this president's rhetoric is quite frankly like anyone else in washington. that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm. fohalf the calories plus vgie nutrition. could've had a v8.

martha: a woman staggers out on the court in denver. whoa, miss. security escorted her off the court and to a detention facility. she is facing charges for trespassing. it turns out this woman is no stranger to security detail. she has been banned before accused of stalking the players. this time she stalked them right on the basketball court. bill: president obama facing challenges while kicking off his presidential campaign.

this picture posted by mitt romney's. the arena was not filled up. how you doing? you brought not one white board, but two. i want reaction what the romney team did. they went to this event. they camped out around the reporter's section. then they blasted that camera picture across the internet. this became one of the major head lines as opposed to the president's message. >> , there were 14,000 in an arena made for 20,000. not a good day at the headquarters in chicago. i'll bet there is an advance man

that has been assigned to alaska and laredo, texas. they won't be be handling major markets anymore. bill: you wonder how this -- >> you don't get an arena larger than the crowd you anticipate. you get an arena smaller than the crowd you will get. let's not read too much into this. if i were the obama campaign i would be worried about the fact gallup just finished a poll released april 26 in which -- this is the entire country. 78% of the voters said that they were definite to vote this fall. 78% won't turn out. but the republicans had an advantage. 87% of them said they were going to vote. 87% for democrats and 69% for independents.

the republic-leaning independents were likely to vote by a 10-point margin. bill: that goes to voter enthusiasm does it not? >> that's right. rallies aren't an indicator of enthusiasm. in george mcgovern's rallies were extraordinarily large and he went down to a 49-date defeat. if you look -- to a 49-state defeat. recent polls indicate his margin has been cut in half and the voting is much, much reduced. bill: that one white board. do you have a second. >> here is the bigger problem for the president. the poll numbers definite to vote -- this is what got me friday. if you take a look at the jobs

report. and look at discouraged workers. people got so fed up and discouraged about looking for work, they outnumber the new jobs 3:1. they say i believed in you but my life is not well. bill: typically what would that ratio be? >> you ought to have a lot more people getting jobs than people getting discouraged and dropping out of the workforce. we have the smallest percentage of americans in the workforce since we have had since 1981. that's why the unemployment ticked down but it on ticked dunn 1/10% -- it only ticked down 1/10 of 1%. bill: this is the poll that was

done in the swing states. president obama with a lead by 2 points over mitt romney. 47% to 45%. everybody thinks this election is going to be super tight. the other thing is with senator marco rubio. this goes to more themes. he's becoming increasingly devisive. this president's rhetoric is like anyone else's in washington. all the things that made him special four years ago are gone. now he's dividing americans. bill: this is what republicans are going to argue. you can't recognize the guy we had in 2008. >> that poll this line with senator rub ohio's comments. 12 battleground states that president obama carried. you know what he got in those

states? 54-46. he's down 7 points and governor romney is 1 point behind where senator mccain was. the republicans need to win six of those 12 states and they win the white house. with the numbers being 47-45 they are poised to do it. bill: thanks, karl. martha: get ready for more drama in the john edwards case. the lawyer for his patron bunny matron will be back on the stand. why some expect today to be big in the prosecution's efforts to put john edwards behind bars. bill: severe weather. what you need to know, because it is that season. we are back in a minute. i take insulin,

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bill: britain's prince harry goes to washington to accept an award for his charity work. the duck boat pilot was sentenced to 2 years behind bars. plus there is this, an american icon. >> hi, andy. i have to talk to you. >> we are just having supper. >> that's okay, i'm not hungry. bill: george lindsey has died. the actor known as goober on the

"andy griffith show" has died. he was 83. martha: there are severe thunderstorms i want to tell you about. there is hail and damaging winds and damaging tornadoes to watch out for. storm chasers are catching this video of a giant cloud wall in missouri. the beginnings of a possible funnel cloud. maria molina has the latest for us. >> reporter: we are expecting an active day in the month of may which is typically the most active time for severe weather. 6 tornadoes reported from kansas up to illinois yesterday. it's associated with a of pushing eastward. it's a relatively slow mover and has a lot of moisture with it. we are also looking at the possibility for flooding and

that was a concern early this morning around the chicago area because a lot of moisture with these storms. today's severe weather risk including the tennessee valley and northeastern texas. there is a second area where you will have a concern for strong to severe storms. we could be looking at large hail, damaging winds and tornadoes as some of those storms do begin to restate and produce funnel clouds. 6 yesterday. not a lot of activity. but keep that in mind today. it only takes one tornado to cause some damage out there. part of the reason why we are seeing that risk for severe weather is how warm it is ahead of that system. martha: thank you very much. bill: it was beautiful here yesterday. it was cloudy and foggy and

rained all day saturday. we made up for it yesterday. vice president joe biden made a controversial comment that could be a focus during this election. martha: the attempt by 9/11 mastermind khalid sheikh mow ham -- mohammad to make a mockery out of the justice system. this is delicious okay... is this where we're at now? we just eat whatever tastes good?

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and a smartphone... with an e-trade app. ♪ nobody knows... [ male announcer ] e-trade. investing unleashed. bill: there is growing outrage over the long-awaited trial of the five alleged terrorists from 9/11. khalid sheikh muhammad and four coconspirators stalled the proceedings at every turn. what did they do in court? >> reporter: they did quite a bit. khalid sheikh muhammad, the mastermind of the 9/11 terror plot and the four detainees act in total disregard. trying to take control of the hearing by not cooperating. a 9/11 family member claimed the

detainees were trying to carry out jihad in court. they watched the proceedings on closed circuit tv from military locations around the u.s. the hearing should have taken two hours but it lasted for 13 hours. they ignored the judge and took neil breaks. the pentagon paid lawyer caused a stir by her decision to wear muslim garb. >> there was somebody dressed in a way that was not in keeping with my client's religious beliefs. >> reporter: the government states the trial should proceed

this august 1st. the trial should be set for may 2013. bill: is there an acceptable or short explanation why this trial is take so long. >> reporter: mark martin says he has hundreds of motions to prepare for the case, adding that everyone is frustrated by the delay. bill: kelly wright in washington. we'll talk to -- we'll talk to john owens who lost his brother on 9/11. we'll get his reaction. martha: the white house is defending comments from joe biden on same-sex marriage that raised a few eyebrows. here is what the vice president said on "meet the press."

>> i'm vice president of the united states of america. the president sets the policy. i'm comfortable with the fact that men marry illegible men, women marrying women are entitled to all the civil rights and civil liberties and i don't see much of a distinct beyond that. martha: well, that the jumping off point. doug schoen joins me, a former pollster to bill clinton. taught were jonathon morris is a roman catholic priest. the white house walked it back trying to broaden out the statement. is this a joe bidenism we heard or is this a way to get the message out that the door is

open. >> it's saying the door is open, conservative catholics, african-americans and hispanics that the president hasn't gone as far as the vice president did. i think it' a mixed message. martha: i don't know if those groups will be okay with that halfway measure. >> you can't have it both ways. the president understands while there is wholesale support for same-sex civil sunons. the vice president was sending a message to a core constituency, but there is a counter constituency. all don't support gay rights under the marriage clause even if they support it under a civil union. martha: joe biden has been outspoken about his catholicism.

>> it's not much of a surprise give up his history in talking about these things. but i agree with the vice president that all human beings whether they are same-sex or not should receive the same liberties and civil rights as someone else, but that's different from saying anybody can marry anybody. to say one person can marry 3 people. the state has a vested interest in marriage because marriage has always been for the good of the state, order could conception and rearing children. martha: i'm not sure the democratic base is going to be pleads with the president on this, doug. isn't this an example of a moment when he could be taking a leadership role on this? if he believes in gay marriage the president is mission an opportunity to say a lot of

americans believe will indeed be the norm in times to come. why would he shirk from that? >> politic. he understands as tony was suggesting correctly, the entire democratic constituency doesn't support gay marriage. by having the vice president out there on the issue and the president keeping his distance web's able he thinks to maximize the benefits. martha: north carolina isg about to pass a mess sure that would ban gay marriage. >> not on is this a big swing state. this is where the democratic convention is going to take place. imagine holding this convention in a state that just band same-sex marriage and having all

that convention drama play out during the summer. the president does not want that narrative happening while he's trying to move forward. martha: he needs the catholic vote. let's pull up the stats. i believe 54% of catholics voted for obama. how is the catholic vote going to be? >> right now it's 49-49 between mitt romney and obama in recent polls. but this is not a democratic or republican point of view. the average american recognizes this choice to be purely political. such an important issue of marriage is a terrible thing for the united states. this is a perfect opportunity for the united states. and it shouldn't be. politics is about the common good of society. this is a great time for the president to come out and say these are my views. personal views. i think this view is the best thing for the country and

explain. for some reason he's unwilling to say why. this country should not approve gay marriage and i think unfortunately the excuse is it's all about politics. martha: george bush and mitt romney are all in the same place, civil unions are what they are in favor of. he says it's evolving. >> for the reasons tony was suggesting, the last thing they want is a fight at the convention. evolving is a code word to his core constituents. thank you, thank you. thank you very much. it's good to see you all. bill: is the new future of afghanistan in serious question? after all of our american blood

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martha: that is an incredible sight out of rio de janeiro over the weekend. the moont closest it gets to the earth this year. 15,000 miles closer. and it was absolutely stunning. look at glow. these incredible shots coming in from around the world.

next up for our lunar neighbor it will pass in front of the sun for the solar he description and that will happen may 20. get your camera ready for that one. bill: maybe the skies in new york will be clear on that one. thousands of u.s. forces get ready to leave afghanistan over the next six months. two top lawmakers warning in a new report that the taliban is growing stronger. john barasso reacts. what do you mean the taliban is growing stronger? >> the president was just in afghanistan last week saying the tide has turned and the momentum shift. but the democrat from california who just got back from afghanistan said the taliban is getting stronger.

it's hugely concerning to the american people. we don't want the president telling us one thing and the intelligence committee telling us something different. bill: this was the president's assessment, the tide has turned. we broke the taliban's momentum. is that not true? >> that's what the president said. he reads the polls and 60% of americans think he's doing a fair job in afghanistan. we don't want afghanistan to be a haven for terror attacks. there is a report that talks about the release of these strategic detainees. bad guys who have been sent back because they quote promised not to attack us again. usama bin laden, the letters that have been released are telling the bad guys to go from pakistan to afghanistan to avoid being hit by u.s. drones

attacking in pakistan. the american people just want the truth. we hear one thing from the path and another from the intelligence committee. republicans, democrats. the american people want answers. bill: this is dianne feinstein, the democrat from california. she says quote i think we both say is what we found is that the taliban is strong. there are 88,000 fighting that war in afghanistan now. most combat troops are expected to leave by 2014. is it your expectation that this move would be reversed or not? >> the president will make that decision but i wish he would make it based on the facts on the ground as opposed to his political time table lined up to the election. the president made a decision to remove all of the troops from

iraq against the advice of his military leaders. i would hope the president would his to the military leaders on the ground and make the decision that's in the best interest of the american people to avoid having afghanistan become once again a haven for terrorists to use to attack. bill: afghanistan is on part of the issue. other part of the issue is pakistan. do you get the sense we made inroads? >> you take a look at the fact usama bin laden was hiding in plain sight in pakistan. you wonder if they were incompetent or in cahoots. i think the jury is still out on pakistan. there is a lot more that needs to be done. bill: do you think this administration is willing to work with the pakistani government to get something done before the election? the point you are making is the

president has been distracted by his own reelection. >> i think the president is focused entirely on his own reelect and when it comes to pakistan we have done some things to say the money going to pakistan is either not going to go there or has to be used in a way to make sure we get the rut we need in pakistan. i think the jury is still out on it? bill: i appreciate your time. keep an eye on this american held hostage. i'm sure you have not seen it. we await the fate of that man, too, held somewhere in that country. john barasso on the hill. go to foxnews.com. you can leave your question about anything on your mind whether it's pakistan or afghanistan. or you can shoot me an email at

hemmer@foxnews.com. if the form of a question. come on in. martha from new jersey. martha: the congressman just referred to it. a stunning report that shows the united states is swapping taliban prisoners for promises of peace. how will that work out? we'll talk about that straight ahead. bill: a new week for john edwards. his corruption trial getting underway. we are live from north carolina with what we can expect and who will be on the stand today. careful, pringles are bursting with more flavor. [ crunches ] mmm. ♪

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by hillary clinton is on a three-davis to it pakistan. she delivered his comment.

iman al-zawahiri is believed to be in pakistan. the pakistanis are saying give us your proof and we'll go after him. here is hillary clinton. >> we want to disable al qaeda. and we made a lot off progress in doing that. there are several significant leaders still on the run. al-zawahiri who inherited the leadership from bin laden is somewhere we believe in pakistan. we are intent upon going after those who are trying to keep al qaeda operational and inspirational. bill: that is a major headline with the tribunals underway at gitmo and hillary clinton traveling in india.

the pakistanis are saying there is no information about al qaeda leader al-zawahiri in pakistan. martha: the john edwards trial gets underway today and it's follow the money. secret payment from that woman, rachel, known as bunny mellon. one of those checks about $100,000. there it is. disguised as a payment for antique furniture so says the prosecution. jonathan serrie is live outeyed the federal court in breens borrow, north carolina. >> reporter: she is reportedly 100 years old and too fragile to testify. on her behalf we have been hearing from the estate lawyer

who funneled money to an edwards campaign aide. he recalls a conversation he had with smith asking whether he was aware of those funds. he said yes, john acknowledges that those were for his benefit. it left everyone on a legal cliff hangar as they adjourned over the weekend. martha: what does the defense have on tap? >> reporter: we expect the defense through cross-examination will ask him to clarify that statement. to clarify whether john acknowledges now, does that mean

he was unaware of the funds until late in the game when people like alex forger started asking questions or was he suggesting edwards knew all along? >> two words will visibility to be expanded pop. what does the word "now" mean and "for his benefit" mean? he probably benefited in a personal capacity because it helped take care of his mistress and new baby. >> reporter: the prosecution case hinges on federal campaign limit. there was a maximum individual donor cap of $2,300. forger says he was unaware of the checks bunny mellon had been writing on her personal account until one of those checks bounced and the bank called him. he said quote i suggested since

she knew the limits of what could be given in the campaign that surely has to be a personal gift to mr. edwards. and she understood that. martha: she was unhappy about the campaign laws that didn't allow her to give money directly to the campaign. what an -- that jury has its work cut out for them. bill: new polling showing the fight ahead in the all important battleground states. brit hume will analyze. march report relatives of those killed on september 11 were hoping more one thing. >> justice has been denied so long. >> we are here for justice for our families. my brother was murdered in the cockpit of his airplane an was not surround by his loved ones

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everyone a grease that they are guilty of what they have done and should remain in detention. everyone agrees that these are bad guys. but the benefits outweigh the risks. if you release these high level taliban members is there any hope they will negotiate for peace? >> well it's a big question. we saw this for the first time this morning, mart that. this is a secret program. i want to know more, you want to know more, the american people want to know more. as if i read the article correct lease, which has a lot of holes in it obviously, is what they're trying to do and this program may go back to the bush administration, if they are saying several years is that they want to use these people to try to gain favor with some of these groups, including the taliban and other groups. they want to get them to move forward or promote security in regions where the military feels that there isn't a military solution there. what makes me feel relatively comfortable with what i know right now, martha is the fact that the military commander's on

the ground are involved in this. and involved in the decisions right down to who to release. that makes me a little bit more com comfortable, but i think it's risky and a gamble. martha: when you look at it from that spe perspective that has to be a longer term plan in afghanistan, if terms of building a government that is more friendly to our interests, certainly, and do you have to in some ways pick off some of the group you've been fighting against to have any hope of that? >> that's right. i think the article has an antidote in there when they talk about releasing a family member of a group, and this group turned around and started helping us identify the locations of taliban fighters. if you can in a sense divide these inc insurgent networks you might be able to have more success. i mean sometimes we've used unconventional means such as the awakening movement in iraq to

help us move forward with our national security objectives. martha: just a real quick question i want to throw automatic in terms of what hillary clinton just said. she said khalid ali-m aldawsari is in pakistan. high level officials say they cannot confirm that. but she says that is what the u.s. believes. what do you think? >> i guess that is kind of a shot across the bow. she is in india, which is always very delicate when you talk about pakistan. of course i think she is saying he's in pakistan, pakistan you better do something about this because we have the capability to do something about it as you witness aide year ago with osama bin laden. i think she is warning them that they need to do something. i'm not sure she is going to share intelligence with them but i think she is pressing them to do something about the head of al-qaida today. martha: thank you very much, peter brooks. bill: the death of an remain me nurse in afghanistan who collapse he and died during a skype chat by way of video

computer with his wife. bruce clark had no bullet wounds and they do not suspect foul play, this despite claims from his wife that there was a bullet hole in a closet door behind him after he collapsed. the family says mrs. clark wants to honor her husband. >> he loved being in the military, and he loved serving his country. he was absolutely willing to make any sacrifice, and it's just horrible that this is the sacrifice he ended up making. bill: tragic all around. captain clark leaves behind two young daughters, ages 3 and 9. the cause of that death is now under investigation still. martha: strange story. it's back to business for congress today. house republicans are picking up a proposal to prevent billions in defense budget cuts. the house budget committee meets today to act on that measure. it uses cuts to food aid, healthcare and social services to prevent an automatic

$55 billion reduction to the pentagon budget that would kick in as a a result of this sequestration as you remember, that comes in on january 19st. a floor floa vote on this is expected later this week. bill: let's roll on now to the new polling number showing a dead heat yet again between the president and mitt romney. in this politico george washington university poll. romney at 48%, president obama 47%. it gets even more interesting from their. brit hume with me now to take us through the numbers. good morning to you, and happy monday to you. >> reporter: hi, bill. thank you. bill: i think the numbers interesting but it reflects what a number of polls have also shown. this is a number that i think needs attention, and that is among independents, mitt romney leads barack obama by 10 points at 48-38. what does that tell you in an election that is expected to be by all accounts, razor tight. >> reporter: if you look at the way romney is doing with

republicans, one of the things that we were hearing about romney was that he'd have trouble uniting his party because he was seen as insufficiently conservative by many in the base. he's up to 91% support among republicans. so he's doing very well with his base, and if you add the independents in you normally have an effective majority, and i think that is the simplest and easiest way to think about this election. you can do other analyses, bill, where you factor the hispanic vote and other ethic minority votes and so on and you come up with another way of looking at it. but i think if you win your base strongly, republicans, you win your party, and you win the independents you almost always within the election. bill: that goes to voter enthusiasm and turn out, the number of people who are actually going to do what they say they will do, when they are likely voter and that is cast a ballot. here is another thing on the economy. who does a better job according

to this poll mitt romney has a 3-point edge over barack obama, 48-45, statistically that is within the margin of error. if the economy is the issue and romney has the edge you put that with voter enthusiasm as you mentioned 91% of republicans say they will vote for them because they are excited about a candidate. does that equal some -- a victory in november? >> reporter: probably so. there is a good chance that romney can expand that margin over the president on the economy. this recent economic news as it relates particularly to jobs and growth has been pretty weak, and this is the time of the election year, the quarter within an election year when sentiment begins to really harden on the i shall you've the economy. i well remember 1992 when the economy did poorly in the first half of the year and then began to recover smartly, but the after affects of recession were still being felt at this time and through the rest of the year, and that was the issue

that gave bill clinton, who looked in the beginning like he might be a weak challenger to president george h.w. bush the strength he needed to win that election. bill: i want to play this new ad that is rolled out by the obama team today. i think it's the first phrase of this ad that will get the most attention. roll this and i'll talk to you specifically about it. >> we are not there yet, it's still too hard for too many, but we're coming back, because america's greatness comes from a strong middle class, because you don't quit, and neither does he. bill: it's not, are you better off than you were four years ago, it is, will you be better off four years from now? we're not there yet. does it sell? >> reporter: well, i doubt it, because he's -- look, if this was one year in and this was something like that, a time like that people might be willing to say, okay, you know, we'll go along with him. but he's three years in now, and

let's remember this recession officially ended in june of 2009, bill. we've been in this recovery now for nearly three years and the problem is it's been a very, very weak recovery. so that these after affects that i mentioned earlier of the recession are still being felt very strongly in terms of the people who are out of work and the people who have given up looking for work. that is a very bad sign for an incumbent president. i think the president's case on the economy is weak, the numbers on his handling of it are weak. the fact that the romney lead over him on handling the economy is only three points guesstimated that is a number that i mentioned earlier that could grow. i don't think that ad works. bill: thanks. we'll see you throughout the day here on fox. brit hume in washington. martha: senator john mccain is speaking out about the diplomatic firestorm over blind chinese activist chen. he pulled off a daring escape

and asked hillary clinton to bring him back to the united states with her on her plane. >> the key is to get him out of there and to the united states. that's when we all ought to choke us on. i think it's important to recognize that people who helped him are being rounded up and detained. people are being arrested. there are other people who helped mr. chen get to the american embassy. we've got to focus a lot of attention on them as well. martha: so important to point that out. right now he is in the hospital in beijing recovering from injuries sustained during his escape. the white house says that it is confident that china will stick to its commitment of allowing chen and his family to come to the united states, all no this morning there are concerns about how smooth that path may be. bill: a strange story all around. martha: it really is, isn't it. bill: our best to him. martha: see what happens. bill: there is now fallout now from operation fast and furious. house republicans laying out their case of contempt against attorney general eric holder, so

what is the justice department saying this morning if anything, we wonder? martha: the family of former nfl star junior seau may have changed their decision. what they could do to help many others. bill: the first hearing for the 9/11 conspirators, nothing but outrage from the victims' family that had to sit through it. >> i only saw body language and that in itself indicates that they have nothing but contempt for our values, and our way of life. and it would upset anybody to see this demonstration. >> it's difficult but, you know, we are here for the long term. it's been a long, longtime and we want justice for our families. copd makes it hard to breathe,

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research about football injures. seau passed away at his california home on wednesday. police found him with a shotgun blast through this is chest. they are simon satisfactory samoan. they are said to be talking it over with the elders of the samoan people. skwrao martha: the trial of khalid sheikh mohammad got off to a chaotic start this weekend. five coconspirators disrupted the hearing, shouting at the judge, quoting from the quran, praying out loud during the courtroom appearance. they were reading magazines, making paper airplanes in there, whispering, constantly with one another, according to all of these reports, and how about this. one of the female defense attorneys wore a hijab asks prosecutors to honor the

defendants' religious beliefs by having all the women in that courtroom dress, quote, modestly. here is 9/11 family victim debra burlingame. >> they are trying to create chaos so that they can go out and say that the military commissions are chaotic, they are creating the chaos. martha: john owens, this is brother peter was killed on september 11th. he was the father of 2, 43 years old. john was watching that hearing on saturday. he joins me now. good to have you with us, john. i know this doesn't get any easier. what went through your mind? the day has finally arrived and as you start to watch all of this. what is going through your mind? >> knowing the detainees and who they are and what they are about i knew it was going to be a zoo. i had a feeling going in that this was going to be a long process, and they are going to take every ample opportunity that they could to make it a zoo and make it a hard day for the

families. martha: did you get the feeling that the judge had no control over this whole situation? >> no, i thought the judge did a great job, actually. i really did. i thought the judge tried his best despite repeated efforts by the detainees to act up, and their defense counsel to try to argue motions and things that were not appropriate for the arraignment. he repeatedly told them, today is not the day. but they kept trying. so i think he did every -- martha: it sounds like there is no control over the courtroom at all. you watched it, you know how the judge was behave. you said that the defense attorneys were basically cross-examining the judge. >> yes. martha: that sounds to me as if the situation is really out of wack. >> i was told this is not conventional or civil -- martha: this is a military tribunal. bill tribunal. >> they were given a little more leeway of almost four hours of grilling the judge on his qualify indication. that to me was one of the most irritating part of the days. martha: we want to play a sound

byte from the defense attorney who made the issue in terms of dress and someone in the courtroom that she claimed her clients felt was dressed eupl mod test lee. shear is what she had to say. >> if because of somebody's religious beliefs they cannot focus when somebody in the courtroom is dress ned a particular way, i feel it incumbent upon myself as his counsel to point that out and ask for some consideration from the prosecution. martha: unbelievable. >> irtaeugt. you havirritating. you have no idea. martha: do you think you're ever going to get any resolution in this case for your brother? >> i do. i think we are finally back in the right venue. this should have been done three years ago. martha: the process began and it was stopped by the obama administration, then it was going to happen here, then we are finally back to where we were. >> obviously the defense has changed tactics. four years ago they were ready to plead guilty and accept execution.

that would be great. now it looks like they are in the long haul to drag this out as soon as possible and do everything to have a stage and continue in the jihad against america. martha: when you look at these men in this room, knowing what happened to their brother. you look the the face of khalid sheikh mohammad, knowing that he's the professed -- proud to be the mastermind of what happened that day, how do you feel wit deal with that? >> you keep your brother's memory in your head and you think, you're doing this for him. you're sitting in that courtroom and you're there to honor his memory, and no matter how long this process takes i think all of the 9/11 family members are going to be in until the end to make sure that justice is finally achieved. and i think now we've finally got the wheels moving along again to see that happen. martha: one other fascinating thing i just want to say before we go, i asked you if they ever have any interaction, because if they did coordinate this chaotic event the other day, and you

said they were talking to each other so much it was almost as if they were drawing out their time together so they could communicate. >> yes, they were in tables in front of one another. khalid sheikh mohammad was at the first table. i think they took the lead from him as to refuse to speak, to not put the earphones in, to listen to translation, and i think that once they followed his lead they knew what they were up to. they knew what they would do that day. martha: they used to time, every moment to communicate. >> absolutely. martha: i hope you'll come back. >> i'd be happy to. thank you for having me. bill: our best to you john. it is a dawn of new socialist day in france, and why that could have serious repercussions on your retirement here at home. we'll explain that in a moment. martha: a disturbing discovery, a woman and her three daughters disappear. why is this close family friend considered, perhaps involved and now considered armed and dangerous? >> good person overall. i mean did you have any problems

with him. >> i ain't never had no problem with him.

martha: could it be, fewer hassles for more airline passengers? the tsa is reportedly expanding their pre check program to reach 35 of the nation's biggest airports by the end ever the year. this exes itsinthis is exciting news. bill hemmer says it's the best. they are already using them at 14 airports. it allows passengers to submit information ahead of time and go through the expression security lanes without taking off your shoes, your belt, your coat, your phone, your blackberry, iphone all of that stuff and just breeze on through. bill: it makes for a beautiful day. mr. hemmer you can come right

this way. i certainly will. martha: bring your socks with you. bill: really nice. sign up for it and keep your fingers crossed you get chosen. it's happening and spreading in a lot of places. horrific new details in the search for a missing tennessee mother and her three girls, last seen leaving their home two weeks ago. their car found abandoned day later. police are trying to identify two bodies found at a mississippi home that is linked to this man, a friend of the family, 35-year-old adam hayes, described by many as an uncle to those children. >> there are nerves in a community like this on account of this. it's a pretty quiet community. nothing serious has ever happened around here. it's a pretty rough situation. >> i hope they give him what he needs. however how they have to take him. i don't want him hurting any more kids or hurting anybody. bill: rod whaoerl is a forme

wheeler is a former homicide detective. this woman was about to move to arizona, the woman and her husband, what is your hunch here. >> they are trying to put the pieces together in this bizarre case. the reason it is so bizarre, the guy who is the suspect in this case, hayes has a long history of befriending the family. the suspect hayes used to be married to the husband of the woman who is missing right now used to be married to his sister. there is a lot of family relations and the police are trying to put this together and find out why hayes became so violent and hostile towards this family all of a sudden. hayes was the last person seen with the family members missing on that saturday. bill: here are the players now so our viewers can follow this. joh and bain age 31 mother of three. her husband is gary bain. by the way does he check out or he considered suspicious? >> that is an interesting question. the husband has been awfully

quiet in this entire event. some people are suspecting, and they are just suspecting that maybe he knew something was going to happen to his family members. he hasn't really said anything. the police, bill do not consider him a person of interest in the fact that his family is missing. bill: the third player is adam hayes, age 35, friend of the family, described to be an uncle to the daughters. two bodies were found at a home where he apparently has an association. do we know more about that association or not? >> the only thing that we do know at this point, bill according to published reports is that this guy, maze used to baby sit the three little girls missing along with their mother. this is a very close knit family, very interactive family together, they do a lot of things together. according to some of the neighbors they've actually seen maze outside playing with these little girls before. he isn't somebody that the family does not know. i can also tell you this new information that just came up today, bill, is that the police were led to this home in

mississippi where they found the two bodies over the weekend based on a statement that maze gave them early in this investigation. 4 they got to the house and they put -- they did a search warrant there that's where they found the two bodies. they have not identified yet who those bodies are, though, whether or not it was the little girls or the mother and maybe one of the little girls. bill: there is a strong suspicion here, hopefully it i not there. maze has brown hair, blue eyes, 6-foot 3, 175 pounds and they are looking for him now. rod wheeler thank you. when there are updates we'll bring you back. martha. martha: could it be some day, president hillary clinton? what the current secretary of state is now saying about the possibility of a first female president. bill: also new fallout in the fast and furious, is eric holder's future now on rocky ground? >> we're running out of patients, but we're not beyond the point of saying if you'll just give us what we should have, what the american people

should have. martha: it isn't likely that. >> if they don't, then i have the supportive leadership to do what we have to do. (bell rings)

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bill: right about 10:42 on a monday mourn. looking ahead to what the future could hold for attorney general eric holder in the wake of the fast and furious scandal. now the top congressional investigator darrell issa has laid out a contempt case against him. issa telling us here on "america's newsroom" here that he sees at the moment, no other

way. >> you have to be reluctant when you're working with the administration to say, we've come to the end. we've got even to that point where it's clear they are not going to give us the documents that they've sort of closed up and covered up the people they want to protect. bill: that was last thursday. a previous chairman of the national committee, sir, good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: where is this headed. >> obviously darrell and the leadership in the congress have some decisions to make and i have to trust them to make the right decisions. but i can tell you as a lawyer myself, this is just unbelievably frustrating, because you have the department of justice, which is supposed to be up front and aeu pwoef board, you've got eriabove board. you have eric holder, who has an enormous responsibility, as far as the rules of responsibility

as a lawyer. on top of that you have an administration that says, hey look we are going to be the most transparent administration you've ever seen, and yet we are not getting the documents that we've asked for. over half the documents haven't even been provided. of the documents that have been provided, they've either been highly retkaebgtd, an redacted, and in many cases the documents have been belonged. the problem is is that we've got a department of justice that just isn't being straight with the american people. bill people. what more do you do after two years. bill: holder would argue there is an ongoing investigation, he does want -pbt to step on that. they've given tens of thousands of people to the ig. this is what doj said of last thursday. the department strongly disputes the contention that we have failed to cooperate with the committee's review of fast and furious. that was last week. has there been anything since

then? >> no, not that i know of. but i can tell you that after two years of subpoenas for documents, in any case in america, in any case that is going on right now, in civil courts, from coast to coast, if you were to take this kind of time to produce the documents that this congress has been asking for -- the doj is basically turning its head to the subpoena power of congress. i mean, what else do you do after two years of asking for documents? i mean, who knew about this gun running program at doj? what did the doj finally figure out that this thing was going on? what did eric holder really know, and what was in his email account when he appeared before congress and told congress he didn't know anything about it? bill: those are interesting questions. if holder would admit who authorized it, and if he said how high it went up in the department of justice, that issa

would back away and would not move forward with this contempt citation is what they are saying. is that true? >> i don't no if that's true, bill, or not. those kind of details of how significant -- or excuse me at what level the subpoena power of the congress -- what level they are willing to take the subpoena power i can't answer that question, but i can tell you that the frustration level is through the roof. and i think congress, and especially darrell issa a, has been extremely patient here -- more patient i think than any federal judge would be with a lawyer in court that refused to fully comply with the subpoena that's been in place for over two years, has owe for sure. bill: this is selfproposed deadline was memorial weekend which is coming up soon and reflecting a lot of what you just shared there. thank you for your time today. we'll speak again. >> thank you, bill.

martha: a big topic of conversation today, a vote on a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. it happens tomorrow in the state of north carolina. that state defines marriage as between one man and one women, but people on both side of this issue says they want to change. john roberts is on this story in atlanta today. what are both sides saying here. >> reporter: good morning to you, martha. some people are for it, some against it. 29 states across the country have constitutional amendments against same-sex marriage. north carolina the only state in the south without one. as you pointed out it does have a legal probation against gay marriage already. why the need for an amendment. here is one of the sponsors of amendment one here is what he told me. >> the reason why we did this the possibility of a rogue judge overturning a law. there are lawsuits with people judge shopping looking to overturn the law. we don't want the process to be through the judicial system.

we want the process to be through the people of north carolina. >> reporter: you might be asking yourself, why not? it's because republicans have only recently been in a position where they could bring this up, but they have wanted, martha, to bring it up for years. martha: interesting. what about the language in this amendment? what can we learn from that. >> reporter: what opponents are saying about it. they are saying there are a lot of unattend end consequences in this law. let's bring up the language. it says marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that should be valid or recognized in this state. opponents of this, even conservatives say what about civil unions and domestic partnerships. could unmarried couples, even heterosexual ones lose benefits? look what happened in ohio, for three years between 2004 and 2007 a number of domestic abuse cases were dismissed while the courts wrangled over the constitutional amendment asking if it gave legal powers to those

people. >> marriage was not under attack in north carolina. knowne no one was trying to change it. now they are trying to come in with an unnecessary constitutional amendment that is poorly worded and it will have unintended consequences for women and children in this state. >> reporter: sponsors of amendment one say wait a minute there are plenty of proceed techs against domestic abuse in the say the of north carolina. there is language that would allow for private companies to give same-sex domestic benefits. how is it going to do tomorrow? let's put up a poll, from ppp, public policy polling, it just came out early this morning. 55% of the people say they are against it, 39% against. if it were to be voted on at this very moment it would win by 16 points, martha. martha: very interesting and no doubt they are watching this very closely in the 2012 politics, and joe biden's comments over the weekend add to the whole mix. thank you very much. john roberts in atlanta this morning on that. bill: did you follow this late on sunday? the election in paris that is

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her. clinton making the comments while visiting a girl's school in india earlier today. the avengers raking in $2 million, it shatters the previous record of $169 million set last year. martha: i heard it was really good. you didn't see it. bill: i did not. martha: the boys saw it over the weekend. she loved it. bill: did they? they gave it two thumbs up? martha: yeah they loved it. france's election after socialist president sparks new economic fears here in the united states. my next guest says that president obama's policies he believes can drive us off the same fiscal cliff. let's check out the big board this morning. just as stewart varney pretexted bee are up about 63 points, just below the 13,000 mark there for the doi jones industrial.

steve moore joins me now, a senior economic writer for the "wall street journal" and he is here. there he is. >> hi, martha i think europe could use some of those super heroes. martha: and we might be right behind them as you point out. >> that's right. this was an incredible election day both in france and in greece. obviously in france they elected a socialist for the first time in about 20 years and greece was interesting too, mart that. i mean you got a big increase in the vote by the communist party the socialist party even the neonatzi party. there is political disarray right now all over europe. and the problem i think, martha is those countries simply can't shed those big, obese welfare entitlement states that are driving those countries over a fiscal cliff. martha: you know, but here is the issue when i look at this. nicolas sarkozy had about a 10% unemployment rate, they had a downgrade by s&p, all of this sounds early familiar to our own situation. he tried very hard to crackdown on it. he evil lee raised the

retirement age to 62, where it's 6 a in this country, and that sparked outrage. we remember how the college students were protesting when he tried to cutback on some of what they were trying to do. this does not bode well for anybody trying to reign in the train from going over the edge. >> the big question for america obviously, martha is whether we have the political wherewithal to deal with the crisis. we are about four or five years behind europe. we haven't sinned as much as they have. we don't have the huge entitlement state that they do, but we are moving in that direction. the real question is whether we can get serious about dealing with those big entitlement programs. we all know multitrillion dollar deficits coming down the track, whether we'll deal with them or have the same kind of train wreck that you're seeing in europe right now. martha: the french people obviously thought that nicholas sarkozy could help them to fix the problems answer they elected him in the first place. once you start to actually implement them and people begin

to feel the belt-tightening that it takes they panic. perhaps that's what we saw in this sis. they say, oh, no, no, i don't care that much about my grandchildren or great grandchildren, i want my check that i'm getting from the government. did he not sell it well enough or did people change that you are minds. >> i think you put it very well. nicholas sarkozy what's elected four years ago with a reformist agenda. in my opinion he really didn't go nearly far enough in terms of turning around the french economy. it's hard to win an election when you have 10, 11% unemployment. the economy had not turned around. of course we're going to have the same kind of election in november in this country. we really are. we'll have very conflicting sr*eus about what we do with our entitlement programs, whether we can get serious about maybe raising the retirement age, trimming some of those benefits, mart that, or whether we're going to have a big tax increase. in france, francois hollande, what he basically endorsed was a 75% tax rate. that sounds a little familiar in the u.s. with barack obama saying she should raise taxes on

the rich. i see a lot of similarities between what's happening in european where we may be headed in the oo united states. martha: marie lepenn had a very good showing in this election and she was very conservative wanting to go further than nicholas sarkozy. she would not put her backing behind him. if she had he may have won. so what does that say about the need, you know, for conservatives to consolidate their -- get on the same game plan i guess if they want to win? >> that's exactly right. if mitt romney wants to win this election he has to put together a center right voter coalition, which i think he's capable of if those folks can come together. what happened in europe, in my opinion, martha, was just a throw the bumps out, throw the rascals out. there is so much frustration on that continent with no growth in the economy, high unemployment, people just have no confidence in the future. so hopefully we'll have more confidence in the u.s. but this is really what the election in november will be

about, and this was a sneak preview. martha: they tossed over nine kupl pwapbts in europe in the past few years. steve, thank you very much. interesting situation. bill: let's see whether there is a harbinger of what happens in the rest of europe too they need help. jon scott stands right now. "happening now" rolls our way in eleven short minutes. hope you had a great weekend. jon, what you cook up now? jon: i had a great one bill, hope you did too. brand-new polling out by respected institutions. they show one thing we are looking at a very fight race for the white house. we'll take a closer look at numbers. florida senator marco ruby kwroe comes out swinging against president obama. is this a preview of a possible vice presidental role? plus, some of the questions on the sunday talk shows, some eyebrows raised today about what those hosts said. is there underlying media by as? we'll get into it happening now. bill: i sense a fox news watch. see you then.

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once, and the most important part is for them to filter out all the distractions and everything like that, the call to prayer, the gunshots, the explosions, the instructors yelling at them and everything. >> reporter: roughly one hundred thousand military members have trained here so far. some have already served tours of duty overseas. >> from my personal experience i didn't have to experience anything like that when i was over there myself. having gone through it now i feel more prepared for the area i'm going to in a few months. >> reporter: the whole idea is a systematic approach to training with multiple battlefield scenarios playing out all at the same time. >> they are learning here as well as down range which is the most important point behind it. >> it's about as realistic that you can possibly get other than being in real combat. >> reporter: bill, it was incredibly realistic. i've been in the middle east, we everee been in the middle east, my photographer has been there as well. we've seen other practices before around the west, this one

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martha: a couple known as the mini madoffs are behind bars as well, u.s. marshals arrested hallihan and his wife janice over the weekend, the couple went on the run in 2000 after charges they ran a multi-million-dollar ponzi scheme targeting the elderly, their family members, friends, things like that. authorities say they received a tip after